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21st November 2020
10:09am GMT
"I believe it's my responsibility to tell my story. I can't speak on behalf of the black community but I can tell my story... It's not something that I've spoken about before because it's not very nice but it's important for people to try and understand. You're two years old and it was directed at me for one sole reason - because of my skin colour."On the latest episode of House of Rugby Ireland, Monye joined hosts Eimear Considine and Ian Madigan to talk England and Lions memories. He also [from 36:00 below] spoke powerfully about combating racism across sport and society, and what it was like to give up so much of himself to try and raise awareness on the matter. [caption id="attachment_709548" align="aligncenter" width="1365"]
Former England and Lions rugby player Ugo Monye and his wife, Lucy. (Credit: Getty Images)[/caption]
"Yeah," Ugo Monye begins, "it was a bit of a mad one.
"I’m not an emotional person. Like, I’m not. Ask my missus. I didn’t cry on our wedding day, I didn’t cry at the birth of both of our kids. And I’m talking about this incident that happened… I don’t cry, but I am a passionate person and I think there’s a fine line between the two. "I was telling the story about how I got abused as a two-year-old kid. And I wasn’t expecting it, but I ended up just crying. I think it was the first time that I publicly spoke about it. Perhaps that’s what it was. You know what it’s like, all of a sudden, you make yourself vulnerable and you’re sharing a part of you with a lot of people. But I also felt that it was important to do that. "I know racism affects a lot of people and it is often something that not a lot of people talk about. It’s become a taboo topic. The only way that you can make taboo topics non-taboo is by talking about it, and by being honest. Sometimes that means you have to give a piece of you away, and open yourself up, and I was really happy to do it. It felt right."[caption id="attachment_709634" align="aligncenter" width="640"]
Ugo Monye goes on the charge during a Test match between England and Argentina in 2009. (Credit: Getty Images) [/caption]
"I don’t think you realise the effect it probably had on thousands and millions of people out there," Eimear Considine stated, before asking Monye if he sensed the mind-set was shifting and that anti-racism actions, across various sports, were making a difference.
"It’s a tough thing," Monye replied. "It’s hard to fix a problem if you don’t ever admit there’s a problem.
"And I’m not saying it’s wide-spread at all, but it has been a part of the game. I think classism is a bigger in rugby than racism. But the feedback has been amazing. "All you ever want to do is instigate and start off a conversation. By starting off a conversation, you actually get to understand and to learn from people’s experiences, whether they be positively or negatively, and what you want it to do is, you don’t want it to be divisive. You want it to be inclusive. You want people to come together and actually protect the very thing that, like I’ve said, has given me so much. "I love our game and it’s not about me – I’ve retired a long time ago – but I want people to be able to enjoy the game, thrive in the game. That’s current players and the next generation of players. And if we can create an environment and an atmosphere where people can feel, ultimately, included but, more so than anything, allowed to just be themselves and accepted as themselves. "And that’s not just strictly race, that’s gender, that’s sex, that’s absolutely everything. We always say rugby is a game for all. Well if that’s what we say it is, then we have to ensure that’s exactly how it looks and feels, and that takes hard work."Powerful words, delivered by a man doing his best to make a difference. WATCH THAT HOUSE OF RUGBY EPISODE:
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